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Gianni Vattimo and Franca D'Agostini discuss the truth




In this fun, intriguing, exciting video in three episodes Gianni Vattimo and Franca D'Agostini debate around the concept of truth.

Vattimo argues the need to say goodbye to the truth of the proposition as a pure compliance to the thing, and argues that truth is always also the result of an agreement within a community. D'Agostini argues that we can not do without the realist conception of truth: the truth is "how things are."

The debate at times is also very light (to control emotions is difficult even for philosophers and authentic even if these issues are quite abstract and ...!!!), the crux of the dispute that is at some point in focus (but the node is not dissolved and the two remain at odds) in the basis of argumentative propositions value-and regulation, in other words, there are normative truths based on facts? There are no truths or values? How do you argue the values? With the facts? With performances and dialogue?

Vattimo rejects that can be nature to establish the factual basis for discussions of values, but only the culture, for example, D'Agostini argues that the proposition "not kill" is based on the fact that there is a natural impulse to survive.

Invitation blog readers to watch the video (not to be missed!) and leave comments about taking a stand: it is in my opinion (the foundation of values) of a node more difficult for philosophy but also a question never so relevant as in the contemporary world.

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Franca D'Agostini interviewed


A good way to get a quick idea of \u200b\u200bthe philosophy of Franca D'Agostini is seeing five questions in this interview made at the occasion of his participation in "vacances de l'esprit" together with Gianni Vattimo.


student of Gianni Vattimo and formed in the study of contemporary French philosophy, has landed then to a philosophical orientation also using the analytical logic, but always remaining anchored to the great tradition of classical philosophy.
E 'in my opinion a very sophisticated thinker, extremely attentive and open to understand what happens in the philosophical landscape of valid today.
The value of his work consists essentially in its determination to revive philosophy as clarification and elaboration of fundamental concepts (truth, reality, being, well, justice ...), so the value of its founding philosophy and policy.

Franca D'Agostini teaches philosophy of science at the Politecnico di Torino and analysis of political discourse at the University of Eastern Piedmont, collaborated on the "Print" and the "manifesto".
Main Works:
Analytic and Continental, Cortina 1997
Brief History of Philosophy in the Twentieth Century , Einaudi 1999
logic of nihilism, Laterza 2000
Misadventures of truth, Einaudi 2002
's Wing thought. Course elementary logic, Pearson 2003
In a closed room with his head on vacation. Ten lectures on contemporary philosophy , Carocci 2005
The Last Fumes. Nihilism and the Nature of Philosophical Concepts , Davies Group Publications 2008
Paradoxes, Carocci 2009
Truth poisoned. Good and bad arguments in public debate , Bollati Boringhieri 2010

See this blog:
Something exists, but how?
Understand Hegel
Return to the system
Paradoxes and philosophical creativity
Escape ontology?
Why can not we think of life as if it were a chess game
What is nihilism?

I assigned to my two classes of fourth year (one a high school to grammar school) as a summer reading Truth poisoned, and I'm going to work with them on this text, even during the school year about to begin. I believe that the power of argument, including the ability to recognize fallacies, especially those in the public debate, is a key objective of a good course in philosophy.

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Flowers from "The hold and the abyss" by Michele Mari


"- Yes, yes, I know, but there so good as to describe ? To tell party? My spirit is hungry for facts, do not you understand? Of details, fragments of colored and full bodied the world outside. I'm tired of thinking, remembering, imagining, dreaming, I want to see, and for this I must get back to your eyes. So?
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Words, words, words which mean nothing vuotissime. I could have flood, which correspond to the facts and Serbin's sharp edges, the weight, texture. Words like pebbles rough mortar that binds not be excluded from the ambiguity of phrase and tone, firm, fleshy, not ensnared by the arrogant crowd of conjunctions and adverbs! Sometimes I think how it would be nice if the door came the Florentine secretary, and Sir Dante, or Tacitus, or the divine Homer, ah! I'd trust them, yes, I go with them wherever they want, no questions asked.
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dream is ... To dream is to live another life, other lives
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- It 'at this point that we ... yes, we ... we do things.
- Eh?
- There ... we love, that is, no, yes, flirting.
- I was expecting me to say such a thing. Now tell me stories.
- But are these stories.
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'If you see the first half-opens the window a streak of light, then a piece of scenery is always a little bigger, and even if you do not finish in open you can imagine how the landscape continues, the river continues to flow downstream, the sky remains grigino more or less, the trees still shaken by the wind, but if you're there, in the landscape? If you six that landscape? What you know then? What do you see? Another will be the window for you, and see, and tell '.
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Writing is great if you do in the sunset, when you return to your apartment after a busy day and go along with the urge to listen deeply, and then you drop in you as in a mine, and it portrays the minerals to sculpt and make the day shine as unpredictable prisms , that, that is the moment ...
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How then can write those, like me, constantly lying in his apartment for months? Whoever goes to himself all of his time to the point of not knowing how the most out of what the outside? He believes writing a story, but it will be only his shapeless delirium.
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- I am the step and time, I'm the source of forms, I am the mouth and bite, throat and belly are the stories that I have.
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- I am sorry: and now you have realized that yes, that is not the value of things to count, but the exchange rate, going from there and come back here, but with the head still there ... "

Michele Mari The hold and the abyss , Bompiani 1992, Einaudi 2002

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Flowers from "Verderame" Michele Mari




"All the combinations were possible, just have fun with my mind and he had a fantastic result any plausibility: the more fantastic, the more plausible.
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Hercule Poirot would have observed that when two things contradict each other so inexplicable means say that in fact explain each other ...
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... those other monsters that are par excellence ...
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I was not a scientist who investigates for the sake of the truth: I was a budding perfectionist who was investigating for the sake of the thrill and the effect ...
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We were in 1969, and then I did not know what it was revisionism, yet I could not conveniently despise those who claim that fascism and resistance more or less amounted ...
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And they say that history is made with with but if ... Now that I know how bad did I know that humanity Hegelianism the best stories are all made of but of itself, especially if ... "

Michele Mari, Verderame , Einaudi, Torino 2007